In March 2000, Stuart Hill attended the Mildura Palimpsest #3 Science and Art Symposium organised by Sunraysia TAFE and La Trobe University. One of the speakers was Stuart Hall, scientist and ecologist who, in his talk introduced the concept of social ecology, a cross-disciplinary field of which he is the inaugural professor at the University of Western Sydney, Hawkesbury Campus. Here is Hill's interview with Stephanie Radok.